Blogtronix CEO living in 1999 - loosely coupled integration is the future
Pure FUD. Perhaps Vassil doesn't realize that 1000s of companies are happily using LAMP and other open source solutions for their blogging and business networking needs without fearing the integration bogeyman. In 1999, companies were wary of using open source, in 2005 it's a no brainer.
From Launching Blogtronix :: AO.:
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You may ask why we want to use .NET vs. Drupal or some other free blogging software. Well, because after talking to many corporations and potential clients, they all want a platform that integrates with your current IT infrastructure. So, since most desktops are a Microsoft based, why would you do anything else if you are going after the corporate market.
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re: Blogtronix CEO living in 1999 - loosely coupled integration
Roland: Doesn't the comment have to be at least a little coherent to inspire FUD? :) Comparing .NET to Drupal is like comparing Java to Microsoft Word, after all.
re: Blogtronix CEO living in 1999 - loosely coupled integration
Roland, thanks for the kind words ;)
This is Vassil, I don't have anything against open source. Not at all, but if you know as much about what we are doing and why, maybe you will understand why we are going .NET.
Just some history on me; I was working as CTO for AlwaysOn and on the GoignOn for some before Marc took over and wanted to do the Drupal stuff. Me and my guys were about to rewrite the whole AlwaysOn and make the GoingOn around php and MySQL, but things did not work out when we were trying to convert the existing site to a fixed up one I left. Any way, since I have been working for 13+ years in the IT departments of large financial companies, I know what IT wants and this is not a Drupal blogging for the enterprise.
For your information, we bought a blogging and social networking portal in Europe based on Drupal, and man do we have problems.
The thing is that you can’t build the network we are building based on Drupal, if we don’t not we-write the whole thing. We have very specific needs. Our clients do too. In order to make this right, faster and make it so it works and integrates with corporate networks out there, we need to build it on OPEN SPANDARDS, but not in OPEN source. This is my opinion only.
Maybe the main reason behind why we are using a .NET platform is that several products that we have and have been selling very successfully to many companies over the years are based on .NET architecture. Our forum product, TalkPread is groups with blogging (postings) platform what is a hosted solution. Again, why reinvent the blogging and why try doing to what everyone else is doing – open source blogging or free blogging?
This is just how we do it, take it or leave it.
Cheers,
Vassil Mladjov
re: Blogtronix CEO living in 1999 - loosely coupled integration
I do not want to make this into a big deal, but just check what comments I am getting from other Drupal users.
http://vassko.blogspot.com/2005/08/launching-blogtronix.html#comments
Again, the Drupal idea and product is a very good one, but every, and I MEAN EVERY platform has limitations. Our will have limitations too. Blogtronix is not a free social network. The Drupal comment was as a joke to Marc Canter, a good friend of mine.
Therefore, do not be a baby and live in the 80’s ;)
Cheers,
Vassil
re: Blogtronix CEO living in 1999 - loosely coupled integration
Explanation here:
http://bernardmoon.blogspot.com/2005/08/blogtronix-launches.html
...If you visit the post, you'll see an example of a Laurel and Hardy show where he had his colleagues post and try to knock down Drupal and open source platforms:
"finally something more reliable. those drupal and some other FREE solutions ....(free, some other time, not to use the right expression connected to the lower part of human's back....).. they just do not work, anything on open source platform that has over 1000 bloggers or users is so bad that it is not even funny. Where do i get the trial though ....."
Why would they do such a thing? Because him and his developers in Bulgaria were the initial team to build the GoingOn platform. Wisely, Tony wanted to test their abilities before fully committing so he asked them to clean up the AlwaysOn system which had a messy backend. A two week promise became two months. I was guessing since they only new .NET that they were learning how to work in a PHP environment on the fly. They didn't perform and Vassil made a couple critical mistakes, so the relationship was severed. Obviously, they were not happy.
This is where I lose respect for Vassil. He could have just quietly launched on his own, but he goes and announces on Tony's AO site and he includes criticisms of Drupal and open source platforms, which he knows that we are building on. Dude, why? Just launch and be happy. You don't go pissing in someone's backyard and start to bite and pull hair, which is how I see his and his colleagues posts. Especially since they lie about Drupal, PHP (which is what the AO site is written in and they couldn't code in), and open source in an obvious attempt to put fear or concerns about our platform. Totally picturing Mike Tyson biting Holyfields ear right now.
Anyway, I actually wanted to give the Bulgarian team another chance after they couldn't optimally perform on the AlwaysOn site, but did some information gathering. One source was Carl Wescott, Marc's partner and interim CTO of GoingOn, who operates very objectively and knows something about building stable and scalable systems (i.e. CharlesSchwab.com). He said there were red flags for him since the AlwaysOn site was down for whole weekends which didn't make sense. Carl said longest a live site should be down for upgrades or correction is an hour or so. He assumed they didn't do enough testing before taking the site down, which reflected a lack of certain skillsets...
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